tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post1663473980251167548..comments2024-01-29T02:09:26.869+00:00Comments on Support for "Trick and Treat": How 'healthy eating' is making us ill: Another Huge Study Finds Little Benefit From '5-a-day'Barry Groveshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06248903531869557287noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-14677500239869588112011-08-17T10:17:29.159+01:002011-08-17T10:17:29.159+01:00Hi MB
You make some good points:
1) No, all frui...Hi MB<br /><br />You make some good points: <br />1) No, all fruit and vegetables are not equal. Fruit contains fructose, which an increasing number of studies shows in not healthy. Vegetables, on the whole, don't.<br /><br />2) Asians have low levels of some cancers, but we have low levels of others. Then there are peoples who eat their traditional diets - whether animal or plant based - don't have any cancers.<br /><br />3) Yes, fruit and vegetable fibre is better than cereal fibre. But that said, many peoples live healthily while eating no fibre at all.<br /><br />Candida is a condition brought on and sustained by eating a diet containing large amounts of sugars (not just the white stuff). All sugars are derived ultimately from plant foods, particularly fruits, root vegetables and cereals.<br /><br />You are right that lumping all non-cereal plant materials together in the one recommendation is ridiculous and, yes, more investigations might be useful. But as things stand, there is no evidence as far as I am aware that eating '5-portions-a-day' is of any significant benefit. The bulk of the evidence suggests rather that eating that much might cause harm.<br /><br />BarryBarry Groveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06248903531869557287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-21749430979113674452011-08-16T18:09:06.306+01:002011-08-16T18:09:06.306+01:00Hi Barry,
isn't it a bit harsh to bin a messa...Hi Barry,<br /><br />isn't it a bit harsh to bin a message only because a study (with certain debatable points) showed little gain from high veg&fruit intake ? For instance how was the basic intake established , that they could count those extra hundreds grams /day ? Are all vegetables & fruits equal?<br /><br />The Asian cuisine is quite rich (&varied) in vegetable intake, and I understood the rate on certain cancers is quite low. <br /><br />Vegs&fruits offer also a good source of fibers - I don't think these fibers should come only from cereal bran. The first message here also pointed to vitamin C.<br /><br />... on the Candida subject - I was fighting for some time certain upsetting symptoms, unaided by the usual pharma fix, and after switching on a more anti-Candida diet - which includes lots of vegetables (and less sweet fruits :o) I felt really great . The connection with certain cancers I suspect could come from the constant inflammation given by an overgrowth of Candida (alcohol, acetaldehide, CO2, certain chemotactic substances are secreted by the fungus.. a real "soldier" in other words, probably we have some benefits since we are tolerating it for millions of years ; the problem is when it goes rogue - in the case of sweet-rich diets, antibiotics, estrogen, and people who don't chew too much :-) <br /><br />To come back to the subject, maybe it would fairer to stress that 5-a-day is too generic, and needs more investigation ?MBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-87669214298670639192010-11-09T12:09:48.450+00:002010-11-09T12:09:48.450+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Sonam Senhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05554997427913461808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-30523512986462896702010-09-08T10:21:06.587+01:002010-09-08T10:21:06.587+01:00Hi Barbara
The major problem with scientific rese...Hi Barbara<br /><br />The major problem with scientific research these days is the enormous cost involved in these studies. For this reason, such studies are milked for everything the researchers think they can get out of them.<br /><br />Don't read too much into this latest publication. It is based on a <a href="http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/data_dredge.htm" rel="nofollow">data dredge</a> of the long-running Nurses Health Study. This is based on a food frequency questionnaire which asked what people ate in general, and was only asked once every two years. Such questionnaires are notoriously inaccurate, and cannot be relied upon.<br /><br />Indeed, if you look at other reports over the years from this same study, you will find that researchers have come to the opposite conclusions in the past. For example: <br /><b>"Our data do not support the hypothesis that a high protein intake increases the risk of ischemic heart disease. In contrast, our findings suggest that replacing carbohydrates with protein may be associated with a lower risk of ischemic heart disease."</b> <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10426698" rel="nofollow">Hu FB, et al. Dietary protein and risk of ischemic heart disease in women. Am J Clin Nutr. 1999;70:221-7</a>.<br /><br />BarryBarry Groveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06248903531869557287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-89820442875429700492010-09-07T15:20:48.930+01:002010-09-07T15:20:48.930+01:00I heard this on Cnn News this morning. Could someo...I heard this on Cnn News this morning. Could someone help me understand this?<br />http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/06/animal-based-protein-diets-increase-mortality-rate/?npt=NP1<br />Thanks in advance.<br />Barbara.<br />Love the book , btwUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16161993315534812620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-12062247728595044552010-08-23T20:28:09.986+01:002010-08-23T20:28:09.986+01:00Hi Victor
We should all be able to eat meat from ...Hi Victor<br /><br />We should all be able to eat meat from any healthy animal raw. Let's face it, we must have done that for much of our existence. Game meat, if it was healthy when killed, should be safe to eat. Even road kill, if you know its provenance, should also be fine. Indeed I know several people who thrive on roadkill. The risks, as you have identified, are tapeworms in uncooked pork and bacterial infection in shop-bought poultry.<br /><br />with tapeworms, both pigs and humans are required for their reproductive process. These days, it is much less likely, I think, to get tapeworms, as pigs are unlikely to pick up tapeworm sections from an infected farmer's faeces and, thus, we are less likely to get tapeworms from eating farmed pigs. <br /><br />Poultry is a different matter. Because of the factory-farming methods used, infection from bacteria, both in the farming process and the slaughtering/packing process, almost guarantees bacterial infection. For this reason, chicken is the one meat I try to avoid when eating out. And I certainly wouldn't eat it undercooked.<br /><br />BarryBarry Groveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06248903531869557287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-78684984374492899722010-08-23T04:06:13.576+01:002010-08-23T04:06:13.576+01:00Hi Barry,
Do you consider it safe to eat undercoo...Hi Barry,<br /><br />Do you consider it safe to eat undercooked (pink, boderline raw) pork and chicken? I regularly eat rare and occasionally raw beef so I'm not afraid of that, but all the talk of worms and salmonella does make me concerned about the white meats. Likewise, what do you think about undercooked game like deer?<br /><br />Thanks for your advice last time about freezing grass-fed beef. While it is impossible to avoid fluoridated water here, we do have access to grass-fed beef, eggs from a real farm, and raw dairy (including raw cream!).<br /><br />Thanks again Barry.<br /><br />- VictorVictorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332515257782279814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-50097122685727316462010-08-08T01:43:15.515+01:002010-08-08T01:43:15.515+01:00I am presently reading "Trick and Treat"...I am presently reading "Trick and Treat" and "Natural Health and Weight Loss" in parallel. There is fantastic information in them and I have quoted a couple of paragraphs from them on my website <br />(see here for example:<br />http://www.evfit.com/ev_health_principle.htm#note13)<br /><br />Thanks for distilling your >20 years of research for us. I hope the book sales are going well and in my quotations from your work, I'll be encouraging people to get the books.<br /><br />On another matter, you are wise to keep off FaceBook. We none of us need another excuse to spend more time on our computers - let alone the other risks you allude to.Keith Thomashttp://www.evfit.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-50226611687321172942010-07-17T08:15:33.874+01:002010-07-17T08:15:33.874+01:00Hi Brent
I was the one who reported it as a fraud...Hi Brent<br /><br />I was the one who reported it as a fraud, because it was. I did not set it up and had no control over what was put on it.<br /><br />I didn't have a Facebook page and, although I have now, I will probably deactivate it soon as I can't see any use or merit in having it. And, as Facebook can obviously be used for identity theft, I think it could be dangerous to have any contact with the website. I certainly wouldn't put my personal details on it - real date of birth, mother's maiden name, my address, for example. <br /><br />BarryBarry Groveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06248903531869557287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-90911373509079995482010-07-17T00:15:01.626+01:002010-07-17T00:15:01.626+01:00Hi Dr. Groves
I tried to 'like' you on Fa...Hi Dr. Groves<br /><br />I tried to 'like' you on Facebook, but then someone reported the group as being fraudulent because they thought I was masquerading as you.<br /><br />So facebook deleted the group and ipso facto told me I can't like you.<br /><br />WTF<br /><br />-BrentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-46434826714083588932010-07-04T10:59:22.891+01:002010-07-04T10:59:22.891+01:00Thank you, Barry, for putting my mind at rest.
Pr...Thank you, Barry, for putting my mind at rest.<br /><br />Prior to the start of this year, he did spend almost 10 years following a 'healthy' diet with masses of fruit, pasta and other carbohydrates. All that happened was that he put weight on and his diabetes got worse.<br /><br />Since following your guidelines, his diabetes has improved beyond all expectations.<br /><br />For my own chronic problems (fibromyalgia, myofascial pain syndrome and chondromalacia), I've only seen a tiny improvement, but my severe arrhythmia has completely vanished!<br /><br />-Jean.Ludditehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10125312794468024559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-60980494536436688152010-07-02T07:09:46.553+01:002010-07-02T07:09:46.553+01:00Hi Jean#
In a word: No! There is no evidence that...Hi Jean#<br /><br />In a word: No! There is no evidence that fats play any part in lipodermatosclerosis, or that lowering fat intake will be beneficial.<br /><br />The causes of lipodermatosclerosis are unknown, officially. However, most venous conditions of a similar sort, such as varicose veins, leg ulcers, etc, come about as a result of eating a 'healthy' diet. People who are overweight, diabetic, etc, tend to be the sufferers. Thus it would be more likely that cutting carbs and eating more fats would be beneficial.<br /><br />BarryBarry Groveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06248903531869557287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-43242921848491515212010-07-01T17:12:59.061+01:002010-07-01T17:12:59.061+01:00Hi Barry,
My husband is a diabetic who has manage...Hi Barry,<br /><br />My husband is a diabetic who has managed to cut down on his meds and improve his blood sugar control by following your recommendations over the last 5 months.<br /><br />However, he has just been diagnosed with lipodermatosclerosis (after 3 years of mis-diagnoses) and he is getting earache from the dermatologist about his diet.<br /><br />Do you know of any reason why someone with this condition should go low-fat? Or is it just mainstream medical bias to push low-fat high-carb diets?<br /><br />If you have any recommendations, I'm all ears - he's in so much pain with what is now quite an advanced condition.<br /><br />-Jean.Ludditehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10125312794468024559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-68403873899982401792010-06-10T15:29:04.400+01:002010-06-10T15:29:04.400+01:00Hi Gerandia
That's as good a reason for the g...Hi Gerandia<br /><br />That's as good a reason for the government to recommend something as any other.<br /><br />Thanks for the compliment. Keep shooting<br /><br />BarryBarry Groveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06248903531869557287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-643134839570703182010-06-09T17:29:55.980+01:002010-06-09T17:29:55.980+01:00I heard the idea of the 5 fruit of veg a day was h...I heard the idea of the 5 fruit of veg a day was helped to push our fruit and veg farmers sell more.<br /><br />Love your blog and site. I use it for good ammunition because so many doctors seem to follow the party lineGerandiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07008473369159666428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-45713096467404423122010-06-09T02:21:04.283+01:002010-06-09T02:21:04.283+01:00Yes Anon it was my mate who started it off, he own...Yes Anon it was my mate who started it off, he owns fruit n Veg shop down the road.<br /><br />Joking aside <br /><br />From what I have read in last few months, it has more than likely came from people whom prosper from it, either by being in the trade or by people having a nice vacation from the people in that trade.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14531473149089284999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-18973836162636663132010-06-08T09:21:05.647+01:002010-06-08T09:21:05.647+01:00Hi Matthew
Unfortunately, I don't subscribe t...Hi Matthew<br /><br />Unfortunately, I don't subscribe to this journal. However, it is normal in US trials to lump natural saturated fats from animals and tropical oils together with hydrogenated vegetable oils, and then call them all 'saturated fats'. <br /><br />This leads to quite erroneous results as the two types of fats are quite different.<br /><br />Hydrogenated vegetable oils have been shown to increase insulin resistance[1] - but animal fats have not. Which is probably why diabetes was rare or non-existent until we started to eat processed margarines at the beginning of the last century, and why 'primitive' cultures who do eat animal fats and tropical oils, don't get diabetes even today.<br /><br />In my opinion, studies like this one only serve to show the level of ignorance there is in the researchers.<br /><br />1. Pan DA, et al. Skeletal muscle membrane lipid composition is related to adiposity and insulin action. J Clin Invest 1995; 96: 2802-2808.<br /><br />BarryBarry Groveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06248903531869557287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-32225531377497750222010-06-07T01:00:46.098+01:002010-06-07T01:00:46.098+01:00Hi Barry,
I thought I would bring the following s...Hi Barry,<br /><br />I thought I would bring the following study to your attention in case you hadn't already seen it, as I've now run across a few websites using it as evidence that high fat diets are linked to diabetes, of all things.<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12643169<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />MatthewMatthew Shiptonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10176709136311626199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-61994552004188751872010-05-31T16:12:31.660+01:002010-05-31T16:12:31.660+01:00Hi Victor
Wow, you lucked out big time.
You nee...Hi Victor<br /><br />Wow, you lucked out big time. <br /><br />You need have no worries. The meat will keep for a year or more if the freezer is cold enough; and there shouldn't be any appreciable nutrient loss.<br /><br />Enjoy!<br /><br />BarryBarry Groveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06248903531869557287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-50891690546738867232010-05-31T15:34:14.367+01:002010-05-31T15:34:14.367+01:00Hi Barry,
I've been reading your site regular...Hi Barry,<br /><br />I've been reading your site regularly for a little over 2 years now. I think it took me a good year of understanding the literature before I undid the brainwashing of modern nutritional guidelines and switched to the natural human diet.<br /><br />I'm thinking about buying half a grass-fed cow which will probably be about 200 lbs beef. The butcher will vacuum seal the beef right after it's cut. I have talked to people who have bought half a cow before and they say the taste is still good after several months and there's no freezer burn. What do you think about the beef's nutritional quality after being frozen for several months? Does the nutritional quality significantly decrease even if the flavor is still there?<br /><br />Thanks for your help, Barry.<br /><br />-VictorVictorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332515257782279814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-66157018992039767032010-05-30T09:27:24.793+01:002010-05-30T09:27:24.793+01:00Hi Jean,
your doctor suggested moisturiser? Here&...Hi Jean,<br /><br />your doctor suggested moisturiser? Here's an expert for you. Some doctors have to be treated like bacon: grill them...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-73242849618828582672010-05-17T08:59:33.070+01:002010-05-17T08:59:33.070+01:00Hi Barry,
The white patches aren't scaly at a...Hi Barry,<br /><br />The white patches aren't scaly at all. The scaly patches are darker than the surrounding skin. I did ask my doctor about both problems but all he suggested was using moisturiser.<br /><br />-Jean.Ludditehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10125312794468024559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-34560140505339514602010-05-17T08:49:44.855+01:002010-05-17T08:49:44.855+01:00Hi Jean
Delighted that most ailments have cleared...Hi Jean<br /><br />Delighted that most ailments have cleared up. On the vitiligo, if you have small patches of light skin, which also tend to be scaly, it could be a sign of vitamin B-12 deficiency.<br /><br />If you eat a diet such as I recommend, a B-12 deficiency might seem unlikely. However, for vitamin B-12 to be absorbed your stomach has to produce 'intrinsic factor'. Many people don't produce enough. Might be worth checking with your doctor.<br /><br />BarryBarry Groveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06248903531869557287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-59480334470580685062010-05-16T22:28:43.326+01:002010-05-16T22:28:43.326+01:00And I didn't mean impetigo at all - it's v...And I didn't mean impetigo at all - it's vitiligo that I have! (Brain fog too).Ludditehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10125312794468024559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3880385657699231533.post-76284411557001306762010-05-16T16:21:33.003+01:002010-05-16T16:21:33.003+01:00Hi Barry,
For years, on my doctor's advice, I...Hi Barry,<br /><br />For years, on my doctor's advice, I have kept out of the sun due to a large brown mark on my face, which was covered in no fewer than nine seborrhoeic warts. I never went out with out a hat and loads of sun factor. I decided to follow your advice and since mid-April, I've been sitting out in the sun at midday during my lunch break with no protection. To my amazement, the warts dried up and fell off, and now the brown mark is fading, and the skin is beautifully smooth. I have had this unsightly mark since the mid-1970s and I am so pleased it has started to fade.<br /><br />I'm now hoping some of the scaly patches on my arms and legs will disappear too.<br /><br />The only disadvantage is that my skin is colouring up and my mild impetigo shows up more! It's a small price to pay.<br /><br />-Jean.Ludditehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10125312794468024559noreply@blogger.com